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alforth
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Wed, 17 September 08 12:43 GMT
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Cuban Monte Christos - sometimes Honduran Churchills.
This isn't an argument, I was simply expressing an opinion, I didn't expect it to find any favour inthe forum. By the way, remind me, is the Lions like the Ryder cup, do the players go unpaid for the honour of representing the collective countries?
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Laurentian
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Tue, 16 September 08 14:16 GMT
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The Lions? a relic?
. . . what are you smoking? The Lions are more popular, more supported and more appealing than ever
I'm not even going to enter into an argument as to why - ask almost any player in this years six nations what their hope and ambition is by the end of it and it will be to go to SA with the Lions.
Ask Shane Williams, Danny Cipriani, Brian O'Driscoll or Steve Borthwick if they're a relic.
Get real.
This message edited on Tue, 16 September 08 by Laurentian
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Oldmanmartin
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Mon, 15 September 08 15:53 GMT
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Reluctantly I'm coming round to Alforth's viewpoint. But surely it's far too early to think about Lions selection until the 6N gets under way.
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dr seoul
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Mon, 15 September 08 08:48 GMT
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Suerly the impact of the ELVs are so major that we will have to wait a few months to see which of our NH pros can run around like headless chickens and participate in a Garry Owen contest...
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Shotty
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Sat, 13 September 08 18:54 GMT
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Alforth,
Don't sit on the fence there mate, tell me what you really think :-)
I must say that I am completely of the opposite opinion, I think that a place for these tours should be found in the modern schedules, I also think that the international tours should be longer proper ones, not just the 'fly in, play and fly out again' variety.
In my opinion it seems that rugby through proessionalism has become little more than a job and the longer international tours especially the Lions one allow the players to have a bit more fun and to get out and interact with the locals. On the rare occasions that this happens on tours I have heard players saying how much they enjoyed it and what a refreshing change it was to the repetitive daily grind.
What is wrong with keeping some of the amateur ethos in a professional world?
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alforth
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Sat, 13 September 08 13:00 GMT
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Hi Shotty
My thoughts on this for what they are worth (probably not much) are that I don't give a damn who they pick for the Lions, or who coaches for that matter. The thing is a relic of the amateur days, probably a treasured relic of equally treasured days but a relic nevertheless. The issue has become devisive and, in these days of full-time professional players, appears to do little to enhance northern emisphere rugby in either a national or collective sense.
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Shotty
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Fri, 12 September 08 13:45 GMT
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I would be interested to see what Lions team people would pick now assuming all players were fit and available.
Another could also be picked when the squad is announced to see how close anyone got.
Here's mine anyway
1. Sheridan
2. Flannery
3. Stevens
4. O'Connell
5. Borthwick
6. White
7. Rees
8. Jones
9. Peel
10. Cipriani
11. Williams
12. Henson
13. O'Driscoll
14. Bowe
15. Byrne
16. Jenkins
17. Mears
18. O'Callaghan
19. Haskell
20. Blair
21. Hook
22. Horgan
Thoughts please
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