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Uncontested scrums
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the whistleblower Thu, 25 September 08 19:28 GMT

Per Didds: <<ie at levels low enough deliberately nobbling two front rowers buys you a one man advantage.>>


You mean when playing Australia? ;-)



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Whistleblower

didds - scrumtime@hotmail.com Thu, 25 September 08 18:09 GMT

agree wholeheartedly with OB.


Notwithstanding as well the potential for teams to target opponents (shall I say) with a view to disrupting their numbers and thus gaining an even larger advantage.


ie at levels low enough deliberately nobbling two front rowers buys you a one man advantage.


didds


ob Thu, 25 September 08 15:43 GMT

dr seoul - "uncontested scrums,with no adverse impact on the initiating side seems very unfair"


Why? A side that has already suffered injuries should be further penalised because you think all such injuries were faked?


dr seoul Thu, 25 September 08 12:39 GMT

uncontested scrums,with no adverse impact on the initiating side seems very unfair,maybe they should be required to drop a non srumaging player until the next breakdown.


Make sure that although the srum is uncontested that the back rows are properly bound on...



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dr seoul

the whistleblower Tue, 23 September 08 10:18 GMT

Andy,


OB's post deals with the side putting in the ball winning the scrum. Having won it, can the #8 then pick up? Answer: yes. London Society referees were, until a few years ago, told otherwise; they were out of step, without legal justification, and were told in no uncertain terms to get back onside. There is nothing to prevent a #8 pickup at an uncontested scrum.



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Whistleblower

didds - scrumtime@hotmail.com Tue, 23 September 08 09:02 GMT

andy - no problem.


welcome to the forums etc etc :-)


didds


ob Mon, 22 September 08 14:01 GMT

AndyMacNo8 - no problem.


Law 3.13 (e) actually says "the team throwing in the ball must win it", which answers your question.


AndyMacNo.8 Mon, 22 September 08 13:23 GMT

Thanks for the advise. Just to 'clear the air' and not further 'hack off' any other users here, I am new to the forum thing and originally placed my question in referees section, later realising that perhaps my question would be better posted in the technical section. Apologies


didds - scrumtime@hotmail.com Mon, 22 September 08 12:59 GMT

see my reply in technical.


Just to help you andy, similar postings in several forums tends to hack people off ... post in one and maybe provide a link in others.


hope this helps


didds


AndyMacNo.8 Mon, 22 September 08 12:03 GMT

I understand that in 'uncontested scrum' there must be no contest, by literal definition. But consider this scenario (witnessed this weekend) :
Hooker is injured and there is no suitable replacement so uncontested scrums are ordered.
Yellow puts the ball in at a scrum, which is hooked back by yellow hooker, the ball then comes off the second rows foot or leg accidentally and bounces in the blue teams possession, they channel it back and win the scrum.
The referee ordered a fresh scrum. Was this the correct decision?
Does an uncontested scrum always go with 'the head'?
Oh.. and can the no.8 pick up and go from an uncontested scrum?


 
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