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zackly
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Fri, 03 October 08 12:46 GMT
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Down in the weeds I read Law 19.2(d) as requiring the (same) ball to touch "another PERSON" to invalidate a Quick Throw. Nor may a different ball be used, but all else is permitted - as generally true in the game unless specifically disallowed by the LoG.
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zackly
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Fri, 03 October 08 12:41 GMT
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didds. Not LOT methinks but TL (Touch Line).
Not being picky, just trying to keep my head clear above water amidst this swirl of changes and counter-changes !
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acmethunderer
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Thu, 02 October 08 15:22 GMT
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whistleblower "Most referee societies have a policy to the effect that anything that will still be there the next time a ball comes that way does not invalidate a quickie - lighting pylon, hoarding, parked car. Something that may not be there next time is usually treated as a person (spectator's dog, crate of water bottles, ambulance departing with previous ref in the back who disallowed a QT from which a score ensued)".
Where does this come from? My Society doesn't have such a policy. I've also asked panel TJs, including one from Premier and they disagree. Law only states that it must not be touched by another person: moveable objects are exactly that, and do not become people!
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didds
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Fri, 26 September 08 10:26 GMT
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Dan - don't get confused (not that necessarily you were :-) with the "ball in touch" stuff that requires the ball to alight on the ground, or something else touching the ground.
i.e. ball crosses line of touch but curves back in w/out touching anything = still in play.
ball cross LOT and hits ground= in touch
ball crosses LOT and hits stand = in touch.
ball crosses LOT and hits spectator = in touch.
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Dan Cottrell
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Thu, 25 September 08 15:51 GMT
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I thought as much from the reading of the law book but I still hear some refs say "Its touched the stand" or similar.
Thanks anyway
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the whistleblower
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Thu, 25 September 08 15:14 GMT
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Dan, the Quickie is prohibited after the ball hits a person, not a thing. Hoardings are fine. [Law 19.2(d) For a quick throw in, the player must
touch. If, after it went to touch and was is used, or if another person has touched
player throwing it in, then the quick same team throws in at the lineout.]
Most referee societies have a policy to the effect that anything that will still be there the next time a ball comes that way does not invalidate a quickie - lighting pylon, hoarding, parked car. Something that may not be there next time is usually treated as a person (spectator's dog, crate of water bottles, ambulance departing with previous ref in the back who disallowed a QT from which a score ensued).
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Dan Cottrell
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Thu, 25 September 08 14:34 GMT
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Looking through the Laws of the Game, I cannot find any reference to the ball bouncing on the hoardings or stand and then not being allowed for QTs. I am sure than this prevents the use of a QT.
About a million years ago I remember playing against Leicester 2s and the ball being kicked on the roof of the stand, rolling down and then we used it for a quick lineout...so may be it is ok.
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