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Mon, 04 November 02 18:45 GMT
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I am a new subscriber and an initially reluctant assistant coach to U7's last year and U8's this year - thanks for this great service RFU. I have the good fortune to work with an excellent junior coach. I only got involved due to the sheer weight of numbers he had to cope with (good problem). I have been uncharacteristically intimidated by it all, particularly as I too had not played. I have found that it is a great way to learn this game, it is super rewarding too. However there is a responsibility to coach properly and safely. I've just completed sports injury first aid training and I look forward to RFU Stage 1 coaching training (recently postponed). It seems to me that those who seek to intimidate are the ones with the problem. However as a novice, I try to listen to those with better experience - there's no harm in listening.
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nobby
- paul.sawyer@entergykoch.eu.com
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Wed, 25 September 02 09:06 GMT
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Scorpheus,
There are many valid and good points made in the replies to your original message, however, I think some have gone off at a tangent and missed a basic thread of your question to which unfortunately there is no real answer.
By its nature, there will ALWAYS be dinosaurs at rugby clubs, the "IN MY DAY......" brigade and unfortunately for JoBrimble, the anti-womens lobby. I help coach a women's side and I'm all in favour of it.
What's needed is a 'sea-change', a move in the rugby culture. This can only be achieved by up and coming coaches.
We are in a more 'informed' age now. I wouldn't say we know more than our predescessors, but I think we are better at applying what we know, to the benefit of our charges.
It will take time, we may even join the "IN MY DAY.." brigade when we are older. In the meantime, we need to have confidence in what we are doing, stand tall, stick to our principles and tell the 'old f*rts' to b*gger off!!
Nobby.
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steve johnson
- sehjohnson@hotmail.com
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Wed, 05 June 02 04:42 GMT
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To Jobrimble and other sufferers
Your lack of playing experience is totally irrelevent as long as you have taken the time to research and learn the things you are teaching/coaching, and as your results show, you are doing pretty well. There are a lot of insecure people out there in every walk of life looking to put others down, and rubbish their efforts. The assessor ought to look closely at his motives and comments. If your coaching is excellent, then you have fulfilled the requirements. As far as negative comments on the touchline, a question are they from coaches whose team(s) are losing to yours? When your players hear these negative comments, the best thing you can do is to apologize to the youngsters for putting them in a place with such inadequate people. Explain that the game is full of generosity, and all the other positive things you are in there for, but that there are a few bad sports, and weak people who think that abusing other people makes them stronger. Avoid them like the plague during and after games, and steer your players away from them. They should know better, and the fact they don't is sad. To the others facing such discrimination, I would say, hang in there, what you are doing for the players in your charge and for the future of the game itself is of such immeasurable value, it would be tragic to lose it. Get the support of your senior club colleague who doubtless appreciate what you are doing, and have them sort the nasties out for you. Nil illegitimum carborandum desperandum (is that still right from my long ago Latin days??) - don7t let the b......s drag you down - they are in the minority. Sorry to have gone on and on....
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jobrimble
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Thu, 30 May 02 14:39 GMT
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never be intimidated.....
thats quite hard. i am a young female coach of an under 15 squad. i only recently actually took my level one.
i try not to get intimidated but i do get some comments etc for being a female coach.and this can be very off putting as i am definitley still learning and i feel it undermines my confidence altogether.especially as i am so young and am coaching youngsters. there is alittle hostility in some places still towards women and rugby i feel?eg i took them on tour and we played a club who's name i wont mention, i was on the side line and recieving some very offensive comments which nearly resulted in my swinging for the person involved. some of my team heard these comments and i also feel that it can affect my authority with them?
nevertheless, my lads respect me, they are v well disciplined and win 90% of their matches so i cant be that bad?
i even came across this on my level one course. my assessor started by saying that my coaching was excellent etc..but then he asked me how long i had played for.i answered i have never played a game in my life. this entirely changed his attitude and he didnt really want to pass me. how do other people feel about non players coaching?
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stavros
- stavrospopadopolos@hotmail.com
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Mon, 15 April 02 17:32 GMT
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Hey scorphy check out the reply to youe england clubs U18 !!
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campbellhp2
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Wed, 02 January 02 16:29 GMT
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Shelford, a little of them all. I played years ago, the game has changed, how do you get the basics over keep it interesting and teach attack and defence. As I am approaching senility I find it difficult to remember a lot of things and find the kids have an equally short span of attention. So any tips would be gratefully received.
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nodrog
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Wed, 02 January 02 16:29 GMT
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Shelford, a little of them all. I played years ago, the game has changed, how do you get the basics over keep it interesting and teach attack and defence. As I am approaching senility I find it difficult to remember a lot of things and find the kids have an equally short span of attention. So any tips would be gratefully received.
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jockthepuffer
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Wed, 02 January 02 16:29 GMT
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Shelford, a little of them all. I played years ago, the game has changed, how do you get the basics over keep it interesting and teach attack and defence. As I am approaching senility I find it difficult to remember a lot of things and find the kids have an equally short span of attention. So any tips would be gratefully received.
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scorpheus
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Mon, 31 December 01 07:00 GMT
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Shelford - Trust me.....I have just "a little" coaching experience and have watched many Senior & Junior
representative sides. It worries me massively that coaching has become hugely overcomplicated.
Seems to me the coaches have been watching too much TV and try to get junior players to play an international type game. But, without the coaching skills or player skills to do so.
Many spend much of the time shouting at players and too little time on defence.
......see my note in England section of this site "England 18 Group Clubs"!
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scrumsrus
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Tue, 04 December 01 22:08 GMT
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From experience of recruiting coaches for "Mini" Rugby I have found that the best coaches are consistantly those who have NO previous experience of the game.
Once they have completed the most basic coaching couse available to them they are better suited to coaching the young kids, because they do not have the knowledge with which to bombard the kids. They apply the KISS system to every situation they encounter.
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
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russ
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Sun, 02 December 01 20:49 GMT
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I couldn`t agree with you more, all the things in rugby we love the free running, the vision and FUN in the past years has been coached out of the game, As coaches new or old we need to start injecting more FUN, ENJOYMENT, SIMPLICITY and all the things we would like to see in a game.
I have found that when I take a coaching session the more I put into the seesion the harder the squad seem to work, the harder they work the more effort I put into my planing of the session. It seems to be an eternal circle and while this carries on I shall continue to coach.
At the end of the day those who can play, play and those who can`t coach!
IF YOU ENJOY SOMETHING YOU WILL DO IT MORE AND MORE.
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scorpheus
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Sun, 02 December 01 08:52 GMT
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There is a whole pile of crap talked about coaching (epecially of junior players - our lifeblood).
The quality of the young players we produce is DIRECTLY related to the quality of coaching they're given AND
the ability of coaches to understand them and encourage them.
Newcomers to coaching ARE being intimidated by the apparent complexity of the game, which is being compounded by some current coaches (mostly in favour of massaging their own egos).
Don't be intimidated by some of the "old coaching heads". It really AIN'T that complicated.
There are some basic technical skills involved, BUT...., these are easy and quick to learn.
Rugby coaching at junior level (and- trust me - even at some top levels), is about the enthusiasm & organisation of the coach to teach but above all, ALLOW the players to PLAY!
Many coaches and many "old heads", (maybe inadvertently) intimidate young players, MASSIVELY OVER COMPLICATE the game and coach-OUT all the flair and enthusiasm.
Getting the team REALLY FIT & given a basic knowledge of set pieces & ball retention, limiting the tendancy of youngsters to over-commit to subsequent rucks/mauls BUT FREEING THE PLAYERS TO PLAY & play a fast game, WITHOUT screaming at them for EVERY mistake they WILL inevitably make, will give coaches who take this on board, a fabulous, mind broadening and enlightening experience and a FAR better team than one created by THE SELF OPINIONATED BULLIES who are cramping the style of potential England junior players, in favour of fulfilling there own egos & limiting the English players we see through to top level.
COACHING YOUNGSTERS EFFECTIVELY, IS ABOUT:-
JUST A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE
KEEPING IT SIMPLE
ENLIGHTENMENT
ENTHUSIASM
ADVENTURE
NEVER BELIEVING ANYTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.
JUST DO IT!!! and don't listen to anyone who tells you years of experience are required.
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