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chopper15
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Sat, 01 September 07 14:49 GMT
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IRB Regulation 12 does not help on the question of a one-piece suit. Law 4 says in the Definitions:
"A player wears a jersey, shorts and underwear, socks and boots."
It then goes on to list additional items. None of this mentions the one-piece suit. Shorts and jersey are listed separately.
Midsman, I can only refer you to OB's comment above. But if you have privy to additional info',ie. your letter, shouldn't that be appended to the appropriate Reg.?
This digresses from my pincipal point of still using 'tackle friendly' shorts going into the World Cup.
Why are we so short sighted, and worse, so flippant about it? As I asked in my thread, 'didn't any one see how many tackles were made in last weekend's friendlies using the purchase generously provided by these oversights?' It most certainly was a friendly in more ways than one.
Look at the cut of new All Blacks' strip and accept who's always ahead of the game!
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Midsman
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Fri, 31 August 07 17:27 GMT
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Guys,
The letter from the iRB I mentioned in my posting on 28th August specifically clarified the wording of Regulation 12 by explicitly saying it prohibited "one piece" jersey and shorts. If "chopper" has a copy of a subsequent letter reversing this directive I would be delighted to hear the date and reference number.
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mids c
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Fri, 31 August 07 17:27 GMT
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Guys,
The letter from the iRB I mentioned in my posting on 28th August specifically clarified the wording of Regulation 12 by explicitly saying it prohibited "one piece" jersey and shorts. If "chopper" has a copy of a subsequent letter reversing this directive I would be delighted to hear the date and reference number.
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ob
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Fri, 31 August 07 17:14 GMT
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IRB Regulation 12 does not help on the question of a one-piece suit. Law 4 says in the Definitions:
"A player wears a jersey, shorts and underwear, socks and boots."
It then goes on to list additional items. None of this mentions the one-piece suit. Shorts and jersey are listed separately.
I suspect the problem might be with the method of closure. The material must be tough, which probably means it cannot be too stretchy. Velcro fastening would be too insecure. Zips and buttons might be deemed too hard (though we used to have rubber buttons on shirts in the old days).
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chopper15
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Fri, 31 August 07 15:09 GMT
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Regarding the 'tackle-friendly' shorts I criticised originally, perhaps those of you who watched last weekend's friendlies noted how many tackles relied on the purchase they so very conveniently provided.
No takers for this question? And the World Cup is getting closer. Watch out for NZ's new strip and wonder!
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chopper15
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Tue, 28 August 07 15:23 GMT
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Midsman remarks that the one-piece would be illegal. The IRB actually states that they MAY wear an ensemble, in effect giving their blessing (if that's what they do)to more clothing, not eliminating less.
Regarding the 'tackle-friendly' shorts I criticised originally, perhaps those of you who watched last weekend's friendlies noted how many tackles relied on the purchase they so very conveniently provided.
How many more tries would've been initiated if the coaches used a bit of imagination and got their suppliers to conjure up 'skin tight' ones with a bit of strategically placed padding to obviate ridicule? Of course, who's to say the All Blacks haven't already got them for theCup?
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Midsman
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Tue, 28 August 07 14:36 GMT
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Guys,
In the spring the iRB sent the Unions a clarification of Law 4 and their Regulation 12 that the wording "A player may wear a jersey, shorts and underwear, socks and boots" meant that these are separate articles and cannot be coupled together as a single item.
So currently one piece jersey and shorts are illegal.
By the way watching the iRB Sevens it was apparent that many sides wear tight fiitting shorts hence the abscence of effective tackling except round the ankles.
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mids c
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Tue, 28 August 07 14:36 GMT
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Guys,
In the spring the iRB sent the Unions a clarification of Law 4 and their Regulation 12 that the wording "A player may wear a jersey, shorts and underwear, socks and boots" meant that these are separate articles and cannot be coupled together as a single item.
So currently one piece jersey and shorts are illegal.
By the way watching the iRB Sevens it was apparent that many sides wear tight fiitting shorts hence the abscence of effective tackling except round the ankles.
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the whistleblower
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Tue, 28 August 07 13:43 GMT
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In my view, the issue of binding in the pack is a considerable obstacle to one-piece clothing - as is the durability of such clothing. We occasionally see really tough shorts ripped during a game.
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daz457
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Mon, 27 August 07 12:35 GMT
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one piece suits are inevitable for the modern game, streamlined and effecftively impossible to get a grip on, more tries and thus more enjoyable to watch(well the southern hemisphere teams at any rate)probably padded as well.tricky to get a grip in the scrums mind you I expect-though saying that how long are competitive scrums going to be in the game?
This message edited on Mon, 27 August 07 by daz457
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chopper15
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Sat, 25 August 07 10:39 GMT
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Although flippantly couched my question was serious.
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the whistleblower
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Sat, 25 August 07 08:47 GMT
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Dunno about devastating, but I know the effect that watching Lawrence's Lunchbox lurching as he lunged would have on my wife! It would have totally the opposite effect on me. I wonder how Twickenham would sound with 80,000 female spectators, while Sky and the Beeb ran the feed 20 seconds late for a family audience so they could pixellate the nether regions?
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chopper15
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Fri, 24 August 07 20:30 GMT
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Having watched numerous tries denied by a successful last desperate lunge at a flapping shirt-tail, (classic eg. Jonny Wilkinson in the last quarter of the 3rd test in Australia with about 20m to go and with a game apiece this tackle denied us the win)and watching the British Army win the Hong Kong 7's wearing what looked very much like tight fitting T shirts allowing them to slip tackles,prompted a successful letter to the Times asking why hi-tech body-hugging strips weren't tried by coaches. An RFU spokesman replied the following week stating that NZ,unsuprisingly, were pioneering a collarless jersey using a new 'slippery fabric' and that all other nations will eventually follow suit. Shortly after Wales turned out in their 'ensemble' and I asked none other than Will Carling who was commentating on an inter-active TV channel what he thought about them. They wouldn't catch on he said. The suprising thing is I still see how 'tackle-friendly' the shorts are and ironically a lot of players wear those tight fitting cyclist style shorts underneath. I know should they wear something similar they would probably look like a bunch of tozzers but anything to aid a win is worth it.
Track athletes now wear the new one-piece . How devastating would that make our gladiators look in the World Cup?
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