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didds
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Fri, 04 July 08 11:18 GMT
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Newbs - are your balls new and correctly inflated?
didds
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HighsideUK
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Thu, 03 July 08 15:17 GMT
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Ah!
But is that a new and correctky inflated "kicked in" ball or a new and correctky inflated ball before "kicking in"? And what is the procedure for "kicking in" a size 3 - that is not meant to be kicked ever? Do we give it a good dropping intead?
Seriously though, Unless the thing is actually flat (and I don't just mean a bit soft) how much difference will there be?
And do balls grow or shrink with age?
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HighsideUK
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Wed, 02 July 08 11:44 GMT
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If I were irretrieivably cynical or had Gilbert not been so helpful, then I might suggest that the "Touch" size ball is as near to a Size 4 as does not matter and that it is therefore probably a mere marketing excercise rather than a 'real' size at all.
It's interesting (in an etymological sort of way) that the iRB does not seem to mention "Size 5" anywhere. How did these sizes (5,4,and 3) get their names?
And whoever decided to name the Mini & Midi balls should be shot - unless whoever named Mini & Mini RUGBY did it after the balls were named - in which case they should be shot instead. In any case, the idea that Mini and Midi balls are not what you use for Mini & Midi rugby is pretty indefensible.
I know soccer has sizes 5,4 and 3. Did we copy this from them? I think basketball have thoses sizes too. Where did this all start? Anyone know?
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the whistleblower
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Tue, 01 July 08 15:42 GMT
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interesting information. I always thought that Touch was played with a Size 4 ball. It seems Gilbert disagrees - though only marginally.
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spud72
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Mon, 30 June 08 22:13 GMT
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HighsideUK - many thanks for finding out this information. This explains why some of our size 4 balls are the same size or smaller than our size 3 balls. A standard would be nice but I think I will now ask about the dimensions of the balls before ordering in the future. Thanks again
Simon
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HighsideUK
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Wed, 25 June 08 11:24 GMT
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A very very helpful person at Gilbert told me all this...
The only size ball governed by the IRB are size 5 balls. This means that the sizes for 4 and 3 are not regulated by the IRB - they say that balls for younger players can be sized appropriately.
I have spoken to our Gilbert Ball engineer who has added the following statement; ‘’We have had size 4 and 3 balls in our range for over 10 years, and they are recognised as the industry standard sizes for 4 and 3 - however to my knowledge there has never been a meeting between manufacturers to agree on a certain size and weight for these balls’’
Ball Dimensions
Length (mm)
Circular Length (mm)
Circular Girth (mm)
Weight (g)
Size 5
280
752
584
440
Size 4
275
721
555
365
Size 3
255
680
537
343
Super Midi
247
651
495
277
Midi
235
580
415
214
Mini
160
407
315
115
Touch
277
727
557
369
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spud72
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Wed, 19 March 08 10:40 GMT
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I still have not been abole to find anything on the subject which is really strange.
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HighsideUK
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Tue, 26 February 08 18:54 GMT
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I've searched high and low and can find nothing.
Anyone know?
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spud72
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Mon, 11 February 08 11:36 GMT
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Does anyone know what the official dimensions of size 3 and size 4 Rugby balls are ? There appears to be so much difference between manuafactures, in some cases a size 4 is smaller than someone elses size 3.
Many thanks
Simon
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