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northl1
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Fri, 14 March 08 20:25 GMT
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Speaking as a 'physio' here, cramp is as much an inury as a pulled hammy, or winding. It can happen to anyone and it's not going to go away on its own. It needs treatment to allow the player to continue - often with rugby players it takes two people to stretch it out fully!
I love refs who tell me I can go on when I see fit, and I know they will stop play to protect me - or if I tell them its serious (not happened yet). It frustrates me when physios and coaches shout "man down" at the ref as if he's going to go over and administer first aid for them!
But, when there is a natural break, I really appreciate the time and space (ie me, injured player, ref, and my captain - no one else)to assess the injury before I either take them off or tell them to get on with it. If play continues then players are likely to run off without an assessment leading to another stopage in a couple of minutes, and further damage.
Relatively few injuries can be fixed on the pitch - cramp and some minor strains can, blood can be dealt with, sometimes in less than a minute sometimes longer. For most other things all I do is help the player decide if it feels worse than it is or if playing on is going to put him out for the rest of the season.
No matter what level you are at injuries can have serious implications - whether you are a professional player, a self employed roofer or just have young kids.
PS - I once had a player insist he had cramp and had 2 other players aggresively stretching it when it turned out it torn his hamstring.
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stueymcc
- stuart@computerworkgroup.co.uk
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Fri, 14 March 08 14:58 GMT
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Hello - I work on the simple principle that it is a condition not an injury and ask the player to leave the field of play immediately and for play to continue, the same as if someone is knackered to the point of throwing up. If at level six a physio comes on i give them the same instruction to remove the player. You will be surprised how many stand up to run it off when they realise their team will be a man down.
I might treat it a little more leniently in lower level games though depending on circumstances.
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the whistleblower
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Fri, 14 March 08 14:52 GMT
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Paul, I give a standing instruction to any physio or first aider that they can come onto the pitch whenever they see a player in need of attention. If the attending physio and/or the player is in danger of being run over, then the game will be stopped; otherwise, we carry on until a natural break, when the allowable minute starts.
"Injury" rarely means anything that would justify a trip to A&E, and usually means that a player is hurt. Cramp hurts, so yes - it's an injury, as is being temporarily winded. I wouldn't let it prevent a quick tap or a quick throw-in, unless the physio or first aider was an uninjured player, as often happens down in the subsoil.
I might be quicker to stop play in a junior game, however.
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paul daniels
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Fri, 14 March 08 13:59 GMT
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Should a referee stop the clock for a player who is (on the ground) suffering cramps in the leg?
What 'good practice' should a referee follow when injuries occur, particularly with regard to the phase of play e.g. team in try-scoring position wnats to take a quick tap penalty?
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p.daniels3@ntlworld.com
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Fri, 14 March 08 13:59 GMT
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Should a referee stop the clock for a player who is (on the ground) suffering cramps in the leg?
What 'good practice' should a referee follow when injuries occur, particularly with regard to the phase of play e.g. team in try-scoring position wnats to take a quick tap penalty?
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